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	 updates="2028, 2418, 3005, 3710, 5377, 6702, 7500"
	 obsoletes="3716, 3929, 4633">
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  <!-- ***** FRONT MATTER ***** -->

  <front>

    <title abbrev="IASA2 Consolidated Updates">Consolidated IASA2-Related Document Updates</title>

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	   <organization/>
      <address>
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          <street>1770 Massachusetts Ave, Ste 322</street>
          <city>Cambridge</city> <region>MA</region>
          <code>02140</code>
          <country>USA</country>
        </postal>
        <phone>+1 617 245 1457</phone>
        <email>john-ietf@jck.com</email>
      </address>
    </author>

    <date month="December" day="6" year="2018" />

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    <abstract>
      <t>In 2018, the IETF began the transition to a new
		 administrative structure and updated its IETF
		 Administrative Support Activity (IASA) to a new "IASA 2.0"
		 structure.  
		 In addition to more substantive changes that are described in
		 other documents, the transition to the 2018 IETF
		 Administrative Support structure changes several position
		 titles and organizational relationships that are referenced
		 elsewhere.  Rather than reissue those referencing documents
		 individually,
		 this specification provides updates to them and deprecates
		 some now-obsolete documents to ensure that
		 there is no confusion due to these changes.</t>
    </abstract>

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  </front>

  <middle>
    <section title="Introduction">
      <t>In 2018, the IETF began the transition to a new
		 administrative structure, and updated its IETF
		 Administrative Support Activity (IASA) to a new "IASA 2.0"
		 structure <xref target="RFC-Struct"/>.   Key IASA 2.0 changes have been
		<!-- The IETF initiated a major revision of its administrative
		 support arrangements and procedures in 2018
		 <xref target="RFC-Struct"/>.  Those changes have been -->
		 specified in a series of documents, including
		    <!-- notably a description of -->
		 changes to the IETF Trust <xref target="RFC-trust-update"/>,
		 the rationale for it <xref target="RFC-trust-rationale"/>,
		 a new defining document for the IETF Administration LLC 
		 <xref target="LLC-Agreement"/> (informally called the "IETF
		 LLC" or just "the LLC" in places in this document and elsewhere)
		 and adjustments to the procedures for nominations and
		 selections for relevant positions
		 <xref target="RFC-7437bis"/>.</t>
	<t>In addition to more substantive changes that are described in
	   those and other documents, the IASA 2.0 structure changes
	   several position titles and organizational relationships that
	   are referenced in other documents. Rather than reissue those
	   documents individually, this document provides a unified
	   update to them. </t>
	     <!-- Among the substantive changes in those documents are changes
		 in names of organizations, position titles, and associated
		 relationships. 
	   Rather than reissue those documents individually, 
		 address other topics but mention those names, titles, and
		 relationships, this specification provides updates to them
		 to ensure that there is no confusion due to changes in
		 terminology.  --> 
	  <t> This document updates RFCs 2028, 2418, 3005, 3710, 5377,
		 6702, and 7500 (citations in context below)
		 <!-- Jason, there is an IESG requirement that obsoleted
		 documents be specifically identified in the Abstract and
		 Introduction.  I don't think the Abstract is appropriate
		 here, but, on the principle of choosing one's battles, don't
		 want to handwave past that here. -->
		 to make those terminology and related changes.  For clarity,
		 it also obsoletes RFCs 3716 and 3929 which were
		 Experimental or Informational documents that are no longer
		 relevant (see <xref target="MakeHistoric"/>).
		 The sections that follow identify the details of the
		 relevant documents and the required changes. </t> 

	  <t><cref> Note in Draft: This document lists changes that the WG
		 may choose to process as standalone replacement documents
		 instead.   The relevant sections are provided to speed things
		 along should it decide to not do that.</cref> </t>
	  
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	  <xref target="RFC2119">RFC 2119</xref>.</t> -->

    </section>

	<section title="Remove Text About the Connection Between the IAOC and IETF Trust">
	   <t> Some documents that discuss the IETF Trust or its
		  relationship to the community describe it, or the Trustees,
		  in relation to the IAOC.  That connection must be eliminated to
		  reflect the new IASA 2.0 structure.
	   <!-- Per Bob Hinden, 20181120, insert
		  references to Trust documents above.--> </t>

	   <t> This document applies that change to the following:
		  <list style="symbols">
			 <t> <xref target="RFC5377">RFC 5377</xref>, Advice to
				the Trustees of the IETF Trust on Rights to Be Granted in IETF Documents.
				 These changes require dropping "made up of the
				 members of the IAOC [RFC4371]" after "board of
				 trustees" in the first paragraph of Section 1 and
				 "which is made up of the members of the IAOC, as
				 described in [RFC4071] and [RFC4371]"
				 <!-- JcK: that really is part of the quotation and
				 material being removed  -->
				 in the first paragraph of Section 3.
				 <vspace blankLines="0"/> <cref> RFC Editor please
					note that the bracketed strings above are quoted
					text, not references. </cref></t>
		   </list></t>
	</section>


    <section title="Replacement of IAOC with IETF Administration LLC"
			anchor="LLCRepl"> 
		<t>All mentions of the IETF Administrative Oversight
		   Committee (IAOC) that are not removed by the prior
		   section, shall be updated and replaced by the IETF 
		   Administration LLC (IETF-LLC).  This is necessary because
		   the IAOC is phased out under the IASA 2.0 structure.  </t>
	   <t> This document applies that change to the following:
		  <list style="symbols">
			 <t><xref target="RFC4844">RFC 4844</xref>, the RFC
				Series and RFC Editor Sections 3.3, 3.4, and 4.</t>
			 <t><xref target="RFC7500">RFC 7500</xref> Principles for
				Operation of Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
				(IANA) Registries, Section 3.4. This means that the
				IETF LLC, the body responsible for IETF
				administrative and financial matters, maintains an
				SLA with the current registry operator, the Internet
				Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).
				It also means that both the Internet Architecture
				Board (IAB) and the IETF LLC are accountable to the
				larger Internet community for the IANA registries.</t>
		
		  </list></t>
	</section>
	
	<section title="Where Appropriate, Replacement of the IETF Executive Director position with the Managing Director, IETF Secretariat">
	   <t>Under the IASA 2.0 structure, most of the responsibilities
		  of the former position of IETF
		  Executive Director been assigned to a new position (or at
		  least title) of Managing Director of the IETF Secretariat.
		  An "Executive Director" title is now associated with
		  different, and largely new, responsibilities as an Officer
		  of the IETF Administration
		  LLC.  These changes are described in the description of the
		  new structural arrangements <xref target="RFC-Struct"/>.</t>
	   <t><cref>Editorial comment/rant (JcK 20181114): Or at least they
		  had better be clearly described there because, if they are
		  not, this document is the wrong place to try to fix it.
		  I've done the best I could to combine my view of what this
		  should say (which does not necessarily align with WG
		  discussions) and Jason's (which presumably does, but had
		  another issue or two).   Basically, from the standpoint of a
		  clear understanding of the new roles and titles, taking the
		  old roles of "IETF Executive Director" and  "IETF
		  Administrative Director" and renaming the Secretariat
		  management part of the former role to "Managing Director,
		  IETF Secretariat" would have been a little confusing because
		  the old "IETF Executive Director" position had functions
		  that were not inherently limited to the Secretariat function
		  as the IETF has understood it.   But then taking some of the
		  IAD functions and calling them "Executive Director" (without
		  "IETF", but the term with "IETF" is still present in older
		  documents that the WG has concluded it doesn't need to
		  update and in some more recent sloppy usage)
		  while distributing other IAD functions to the Secretariat is
		  a recipe for complete confusion... and I've seen messages in
		  which several people who have been active in the WG appear
		  to be confused.  I accept Alissa's judgment that it is too
		  late to change this, or at least the association of the
		  "Executive Director" title with that LLC function, but suggest we need
		  to be _very_ careful -- much more careful than we have
		  apparently been so far -- about good-quality explanations
		  and absolute consistency about terminology. </cref></t>
	   <t> This document applies that change to the following:
		  <list style="symbols">
			 <t>RFC 2028, The Organizations Involved in the IETF
				Standards Process <xref target="RFC2028"/>,  
				 Section 3.3.
				 
			 <vspace blankLines="0"/><cref>Editorial note (JcK 20181115)
			     Jason suggested somewhat different text, specifically
				 "This means that the administrative functions necessary to 
				 support the activities of the IETF are performed by a Secretariat, led by the 
				 Managing Director, IETF Secretariat, and consisting of his or her staff in 
				 the IETF Secretariat."  I don't think "This" (the
				 change) means any such thing because 2028 fairly
				 clearly establishes the administrative function role
				 of the Secretariat and its staff.  All this change
				 does is what is described in the first paragraph of
				 this section, i.e., switch titles, so the additional
				 attempted explanation is unnecessary and likely to be
				 confusing.  A similar change was proposed for the
				 description of the RFC 2418 change below.
				 The WG should decide what it wants.</cref></t>

			 <t>RFC 2418, IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures
				<xref target="RFC2418"/></t>
			 <!-- Jason suggested adding
			    "The change means that the Managing Director, IETF
			 Secretariat, serves as an ex officio member of the
			 Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG)."  2418 makes
			 the ExecDir ex-officio on the IESG, so this is just a
			 name change -JcK -->

			 <t>RFC 3710, An IESG Charter, Section 2<xref target="RFC3710"/>.</t>
                <!-- Jason: The change means that the Managing 
				    Director, IETF Secretariat, serves as an ex
			        officio member of the IESG. This is consistent
			        with the above-noted update to <xref target="RFC2418"/>.
			     -->
			 
			<t>RFC 6702, Promoting Compliance with Intellectual
			   Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules,
			   Section 5 <xref target="RFC6702"/>.</t>
			   <!-- Jason: The change means that Working Group (WG) chairs and 
				  IESH Area Directors (ADs) can request that the  Managing Director, IETF 
				  Secretariat, make contact with parties that submit
			      early IPR disclosures. -->
			   

	<!-- Depending on responses to Bob Hinden's 20181109 note, maybe..
			 <t>The RFC Series and RFC Editor <xref target="RFC4844"/>
				(note that this document is also changed in
			    <xref target="LLCRepl"/> above).</t> -->
		  </list></t>
	      <t> Note that the current description of the Internet
			 Standards Process <xref target="RFC2026"/> does not
			 require an update by this document for this purpose
			 because the reference 
			 to the IETF Executive Director in RFC 2026 was replaced
			 by a document that precedes the current
			 effort <xref target="RFC3979"/> and that was, in turn,
			 obsoleted by <xref target="RFC8179">RFC 8179</xref>.</t>
	   <t><cref> Note in Draft: Bob Hinden's note of November 10,
		  2018 11:37 +0900 indicates that RFC4844 should continue to
		  reference the IETF Executive Director.</cref></t>
	</section>

	<section title="Remove the IETF Executive Director as an Option">
	   <t> In a few cases, it is no longer appropriate for either the
		  Managing Director, IETF Secretariat (former IETF Executive
		  Director position) or the new IETF Executive Director (for
		  the LLC) to perform a particular historical function.
          The relevant documents are updated to remove
		  the IETF Executive Director from the list of people with
		  specific responsibilities or authority.  Those documents
		  will not be updated to use "Managing Director, IETF
		  Secretariat" but, instead, the mention of the position will
		  simply be dropped.</t>
	   <t> This document applies that change to the following:
		  <list style="symbols">
			 <t>RFC 3005, IETF Discussion List Charter
				<xref target="RFC3005"/>, section titled "Charter for
				the IETF Discussion List".  This document is modified
				to remove the authorization for the IETF Executive
				Director to restrict people from posting, etc.</t>
			    <!-- Jason:  As a result, only the IETF Chair, 
				   or a sergeant-at-arms appointed by the Chair, are
			       empowered to do so.  --> 
		  </list></t>
	</section>

	<section title="Deprecated Documents" anchor="MakeHistoric">
	   <t> The IASA2 Working Group has also identified several RFCs that no longer apply as a result of the change 
	   to the new IASA 2.0 structure. The result is that several informational, experimental, or other RFCs can be deprecated.</t>
	  
	   <t> This document deprecates the following:
		  <list style="symbols">
			 
			 <t><xref target="RFC3929">RFC 3929</xref>, which touches on aspects of the administration of the IETF, 
			 such as mentioning the IETF Executive Director. It dates to 2004 and is experimental.</t>	 
			 <t><xref target="RFC3979">RFC 3979</xref>, that is updated by <xref target="RFC8179" />, which corrects mentions of 
			 the IETF Executive Director to the IETF Secretariat.</t>
			 <t><xref target="RFC4633">RFC 4633</xref>, which is an experimental document that refers to IETF Executive Director. 
			 It describes a 2006 experiment that ran for 18 months.</t>
			 <t><xref target="RFC4879">RFC 4879</xref>, that is updated by <xref target="RFC8179" />, which corrects mentions of 
			 the IETF Executive Director to the IETF Secretariat.</t>
			 
		  </list></t>
	   <t> It is also recommended that the above documents be
		  reclassified to Historic to further reduce the risk of any
		  confusion.</t>
	</section>
	   


    <section anchor="Acknowledgments" title="Acknowledgments">
      <t> Brian Carpenter's careful checking and identification of
		 documents that did, and did not, require consideration was
		 essential to the draft in its current form.  </t>
    </section>

	<section title="Contributors">
	   <t>Jason Livingood did the hard work of identifying the
		  documents that required updating and supplied considerable
		  text used in this document.</t>
	</section>

    <section anchor="IANA" title="IANA Considerations">
	  <t><cref> RFC Editor: Please remove this section before
		 publication.</cref></t>
      <t>This memo includes no requests to or actions for IANA.</t>
    </section>

    <section anchor="Security" title="Security Considerations">
      <t>The changes specified in this document are matters of
		 terminology and organizational structure derived from
		 documents it references.  It should have no effect on
		 Internet security.</t>
    </section>
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    <references title="Normative References">

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	   &rfc2028;
	   &rfc2418;
	   &rfc3005;
	   &rfc4844;
	   &rfc5377;
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<reference anchor="RFC-Struct"
		   target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc4071bis/">
        <front>
          <title>Structure of the IETF Administrative Support Activity, Version 2.0</title>
          <author initials="B." surname="Haberman">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <author initials="J." surname="Hall">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <author initials="J." surname="Livingood">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>		  
          <date year="2018" month="December" day="5" />
        </front>
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		   target="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-iasa2-struct-06#section-3">
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          <author initials="B." surname="Haberman">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <author initials="J." surname="Hall">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <author initials="J." surname="Livingood">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>		  
          <date year="2018" month="December" day="5" />
        </front>
      </reference>   -->
	  
<reference anchor="RFC-trust-update"
		target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update/">
        <front>
          <title>Update to the Process for Selection of Trustees for
			 the IETF Trust</title>
          <author initials="J." surname="Arkko">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <author initials="T." surname="Hardie">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <date year="2018" />
        </front>
      </reference>

<reference anchor="RFC-trust-rationale"
	 target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-rationale/">
        <front>
          <title>Discussion of the IASA 2.0 Changes as They Relate to
			 the IETF Trust</title> 
          <author initials="J." surname="Arkko">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <date year="2018" />
        </front>
      </reference>

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	 target="https://www.ietf.org/documents/180/IETF-LLC-Agreement.pdf">
        <front>
          <title>Limited Liability Company Agreement of IETF Administration LLC</title> 
          <author >
            <organization>IETF Administration LLC</organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <date year="2018" month="August" day="28"/>
        </front>
      </reference>

<reference anchor="RFC-7437bis"
		   target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis/">
        <front>
          <title>IAB, IESG, and IETF LLC Selection, Confirmation, and
			 Recall Process: Operation of the IETF Nominating and
			 Recall Committees</title>		  
          <author initials="M." surname="Kucherawy" role="editor">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/> </author>
          <author initials="R." surname="Hinden" role="editor">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/> </author>
          <author initials="J." surname="Livingood" role="editor">
            <organization></organization>
	        <address/>
          </author>
          <date year="2018" />
        </front>
      </reference>
   	   
    </references>

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	    &rfc2026;
		&rfc3716; 
		&rfc3929;
		&rfc3979;
		&rfc4633;
 	    &rfc4879;
	    &rfc8179;
   </references>


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	<section title="Change Log" anchor="ChangeLog">
	    <t>RFC Editor: Please remove this appendix before
        	publication.</t>

	<section title="Changes from version -00 (2018-11-15) to -01">
          <t><list style="symbols">
			 <t> Removed RFCs 3979 and 4879 from the "obsoletes" list
				because they had already been obsoleted (by 8179).  It
				also removes RFC 8179 from the "updates" list because
				8179 uses "IETF Secretariat" terminology rather than
				"IETF Executive Director".
			 <vspace blankLines="1"/> <cref> Note in Draft: That
				suggests an idea which might considerably mitigate the
				name confusion issue: Instead of singling out the
				Managing Director of the Secretariat as a named
				individual, perhaps we should be referring to the
				Secretariat itself, leaving the contact point or
				address up to them as an internal administrative
				matter.   Just a thought. --JcK</cref></t>
			 <t> Added text to explain why RFC 2026 is not on the hit
				list.</t>
			 <t> Added an acknowledgment to Brian Carpenter.  If he
				catches another batch of errors and supplies text, he
				gets promoted to Contributor.</t>
			 <t> Adjusted reference [RFC-Struct] to point to 4071bis.</t>
			 <t> Minor editorial corrections and changes. </t>
		  </list></t>
	   </section>

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