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    <title abbrev="Meeting Modalities">Meeting Modalities for the Future</title>

    <author initials="E." surname="Lear" fullname="Eliot Lear">
      <organization>Cisco Systems</organization>
      <address>
        <postal>
          <street>Richtistrasse 7</street>
          <city>Wallisellen</city>
          <code>CH-8304</code>
          <country>Switzerland</country>
        </postal>
        <phone>+41 44 878 9200</phone>
        <email>lear@cisco.com</email>
      </address>
    </author>

    <date year="2019" month="July" day="22"/>

    
    
    <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>

    <abstract>


<t>The IETF currently meets three times per year in various parts of the
world.  Somewhere around 1,000 people all get into planes, consume
carbon, and then attend various meetings in what often is a jetlagged
stupor.  We gotta to stop meeting like this.  This draft calls on the
LLC to research on the community’s behalf new modalities for IETF
face-to-face meetings.</t>



    </abstract>


  </front>

  <middle>


<section anchor="introduction" title="Introduction">

<t>For the last few decades, the Internet Engineering Task Force has
brought together between 900 and 2,000 engineers and support staff
from various points around the globe to various points around the
globe, three times per year.  This, despite the fact that we’re
supposed to be the people who design, maintain, and showcase the
latest Internet technologies.</t>

<t>There are both positive and negative impacts on in-person meetings.</t>

<section anchor="why-we-meet" title="Why We Meet">
<t><xref target="I-D.ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process"/> explains in great
detail why we as an organization meet in person.  The largest positive
impact is that we are able to work together in a collegial way to
accomplish tasks in person that for whatever reason could not be
accomplished via other means.</t>

<t>Also, as perhaps is demonstrated by societies more broadly, there is a
need for people to establish relationships so that people can more
recognize each other as people, rather than just as bits on the wire.</t>

<t>We also meet to cross-fertilize between efforts, so that transport
people can provide application discussions, and security people can
help the rest of us to develop secure protocols.</t>

<t>Finally, we meet to test interopability and capabilities in
“Hackathons”, where the focus is on coding in a social context.  If
code is law, this is law being made.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="the-negatives" title="The Negatives">
<t>Due to the number of working groups meeting, each working group often
gets between one and three hours to meet, and no more. Unless the
value to a person is the hallway conversations, if someone’s primary
task is to advance work in one or two working groups, that person has
travelled a long way for a very limited amount of face time.</t>

<t><list style="symbols">
  <t>The cost of bringing us together on individuals and sponsors can
range from US $2,000 to $5,000 per person, when considering
registration, food, travel, and hotel costs.  The costs are even
greater for those who live in remote locations.</t>
  <t>People who cannot travel, either because they cannot afford the
costs or the time away, are put at a disadvantage to those who can.</t>
  <t>The environment takes a pretty big hit.  While we all have to eat,
wherever we are, and we all have to sleep, we don’t all have to
travel to get to where we eat and sleep.  For most of us who will
have traveled to Montreal will have generated between sixty and
120 kilograms of CO2, and that’s before we generate hot air in our
meetings.  And when we do get to
these meetings, hotels themselves are generally not as good at
managing their environmental impact as individuals are.
Specifically, it is often difficult to separate trash, lots of
plastic is used for drinks, and we generally use more energy.</t>
</list></t>

<t>We gotta to stop meeting like this.</t>

</section>
</section>
<section anchor="finding-alternatives" title="Finding alternatives">

<t>As I just mentioned, it is not possible to eliminate in-person
meetings.  However, it may well be possible to reduce our plenary face
to face meetings from three times per year to two times per year, and
at the same time improve productivity.</t>

<t>And so, a number of alternatives should be considered, with an eye
toward eliminating one of our three in-person meetings per year:</t>

<t><list style="symbols">
  <t>Simply eliminate one meeting. We try to do our work with two
meetings per year.</t>
  <t>Replace one meeting with several different smaller meetings in which
working groups are grouped together based on likely common interest
and attendance.</t>
  <t>Replace one meeting with one or more optional F2F meetings for
individual working groups.</t>
  <t>Replace one meeting with a virtual plenary meeting.</t>
  <t>A combination of some of these or others.</t>
</list></t>

<t>To determine what is best, the LLC is requested, in consultation with
the IESG to develop and present to the community an analysis of
available options to change our meeting structure, with an eye toward
improving productivity at meetings, reducing our impact on the planet,
and maintaining financial health of the organization.</t>

<t>This is not intended to be a short affair, but one where the LLC is
encouraged to bring in appropriate expertise, consider what
information they have, what information they need, collect it, analyze
it, and bring it back to the community for our consideration.  This
memo does not propose particular solutions quite simply because it is
already recognized that substantial legwork needs to be performed
before any particular experiment can be proposed.  It is hoped that
the positives mentioned will be preserved and improved through this
exercise.</t>

<t>As part of this effort, the LLC should ask venues what their
environmental footprint is and how they calculate it.  It should be a
requirement for selection that venues answer these questions, as a
desirable feature under <xref target="I-D.ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process"/>.</t>

<t>Once the LLC has presented the analysis, the community is called upon
to consider and discuss the options.  The IESG and LLC are called upon
to facilitate those discussions, to bring them to a productive
outcome, from which next steps can be take.  Those next steps could
include one or more experiments, or nothing at all if the community
cannot then come to a consensus.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="security-considerations" title="Security Considerations">

<t>None.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="iana-considerations" title="IANA Considerations">

<t>None.</t>

</section>
<section anchor="changes-from-earlier-versions" title="Changes from Earlier Versions">

<t>Draft -00:</t>

<t><list style="symbols">
  <t>Initial revision</t>
</list></t>

</section>


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<reference anchor="I-D.ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process">
<front>
<title>IETF Plenary Meeting Venue Selection Process</title>

<author initials='E' surname='Lear' fullname='Eliot Lear'>
    <organization />
</author>

<date month='June' day='14' year='2018' />

<abstract><t>The IASA has responsibility for arranging IETF plenary meeting Venue selection and operation.  This memo specifies IETF community requirements for meeting venues, including hotels and meeting room space.  It directs the IASA to make available additional process documents that describe the current meeting selection process.</t></abstract>

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